Jay: ETFs have exploded in the industry overall in terms of AUM and flows. If you look back, the ICI reported in 2015 just over $2 trillion in ETF AUM. That number at the end of 2025, a decade later, is almost $13.5 trillion. Now, mutual funds still make up about two-thirds of the long-term fund AUM in the industry, but the flows have been dominated by ETFs in the space. We have a long heritage of non-U.S. investing in developed and emerging markets, across equity and fixed income. They’re relatively underserved in the market for active ETFs. Morningstar shows in the foreign large growth there’s only 20 active ETFs in the space. For the emerging market debt category, there are only 12 active ETFs in the space. Our goal is to deliver our investment edge in a vehicle-agnostic way.
Simon: Well, the greatest opportunity is that growth is broadening all around the world, across sectors, across industries, regions. And after a period in which we had quite a low level of growth, we've now got a turbocharged element of growth. It's not just technology; it's in broader industries as well. Growth is everywhere. Now, a platform shift like AI tends to mean there's a lot of excitement around it, but actually, the portfolio [WBIE] has got exposure to lots of different growth areas—not just AI. It’s not just in one country; it’s not just in one region.
Todd: I think in the 30 years that I've done emerging markets, at this point, I see more pillars of growth within them than I ever had before. One of the themes that's really the most important globally in helping EMs is the weakness in the dollar. U.S. debt levels have gotten so high—we're about to hit $40 trillion—and the rest of the world is starting to get worried about this. These concerns may lead to a weaker dollar going forward, which would be a big benefit for emerging markets. This is really emerging markets 3.0. The industrial capacity that's required by the world is really almost solely located in emerging markets at this point.
Marcelo: Emerging markets fixed income is an asset class that is impacted by two predominant global forces: global growth and global liquidity conditions. And we believe that we now live in a very favorable environment for the asset class. The fundamental backdrop in emerging markets is now very solid, from an economic growth perspective, from a fiscal trajectory perspective, levels of debt are pretty much stable. Emerging market countries have been experiencing strong capital flows, which in turn have supported these countries’ external balances. The average experience in the team, the diversity of the team, our multi-site approach, where we have investment professionals based on three continents, in five locations, allows us to have a very in-depth focus on the asset class and also allows us to identify risks and identify opportunities.
Jay: What the ETF wrapper does change for investors is it provides transparency, liquidity, and potential tax mitigation. What the ETF wrapper does not change for investors is our investment approach, our investment philosophy, and our focus on deep fundamental research. This is a broader way to access our investment edge in the ETF wrapper. It is the same investment philosophy, the same approach—our long-standing heritage of non-U.S. investing, now available in an ETF wrapper.
Filmed October 2026
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